Wanted: Epinephrine (Red Rocks) beta...

Hi, Can anyone tell me what size Big-Bros would come in handy for the chimney pitches on Epinephrine. Also, general rack/bivy setup recommendations will be appreciated. We are planning on climbing with a two-person team in mid-November.

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Speaking of not need a #4, the poor soul who led the climb shortly before I decided that he did not want/need his #4 any longer and so he fixed it in the chimneys. I honest to god did not know you could DO that with a #4. I was psyched as I led up to it (booty!) but it wouldn't budge. Anyone know if it is still there?

Oh yeah, bring kneepads. The first chimney is puuuurfect back and knee size.

we had up to a #4 camalot and a 60m rope and managed to do it in 9 pitches with no simulclimbing, however that involved some decent run-outs and the rope stretched to the utmost length for most pitches. for the descent keep an eye out for cairns, they are big and plentiful.

it's great fun! (as far as chimneys go)

We had nuts, camalot's doubled #1-#4, and it was plenty of big gear. I guess it depends on how you like chimneys, but we were plenty comfortable.

Cheers, Frank

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If ya wanna ... A friend and I took along a #5 Camalot. You can keep this beast in the pack most of the time but it came in handy in the squeeze section a little over half way up the chimney system. It is the section right off the first bolted (if ya call one bolt 'bolted) belay in the chimney. My partner pushed the #5 along in front of him and got the warm and fuzzies. (see http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoyer/gallery/samepi.htm for a photo of this)

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Uh huh. See http://home.earthlink.net/~bhoyer/gallery/epi.htm for some photos and a write-up of that gumby fest.

Brooke 'don't the lights of Las Veas look be-ooootiful?' Hoyer

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I don't think that's a very accurate topo. At the very least, it is compass distorted and has an extremely variable scale of distance. It shows Whiskey Peak to the south of the summit of Velvet - no way. It shows that much of the descent is below Whiskey's summit - NO WAY! Many people get lost before getting down to Whiskey and I'll wager that this topo will not help much in this regard. I'll try to get a more accurate topo together and post a link to it here.

Remember, many people DO NOT go down the ramp back to the base of Velvet Wall. Many take the easy way down off Whiskey, having taken everything with them up the climb.

Mad 'too much Whiskey?' Dog

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